nations, who don't want any united nations treaty. and so they gave them a reason to be able to say this is why i'm voting against it. we're going to come back with the hearings next year, again that will show people exactly what the facts are. we'll have all the witnesses in. i think it can be december positive. and ultimately, i would be prepared to put into the treaty language of the resolution of ratification language that can make it more clear than it is today if that will satisfy them. >> the other argument that some of these republicans were making at least to me privately over the past few days, when i was beginning to get interested in this treaty was that they wanted to make a statement that they just don't like, as you say -- they actually hate the united nations, and this was a way to send that message around the world. what do you say to that? >> well, there's some who feel that way. and i think it's a tragedy because despite some of the faults of the u.n. and some of the problems that there are in terms of bureaucracy i